Re: too much code: GWT Development with Activities and Places

Hi,

-> it would be interesting to see ... a full (albeit simple)
application in each framework.

Take a look at this GWTP-based sample:

-> http://gwt-cx.com/serendipity/Serendipity.html

Cheers
Rob

On Sep 29, 11:05 pm, Tom Carchrae <t...@carchrae.net> wrote:
> Mvp4g looks good, certainly more concise than GWTP.  When I started using
> the GWTP plugin and it generated so much code for me, I got scared.   GWTP
> would certainly be a good choice if you were following the google-suggested
> MVP for big applications.
>
> The comment discussion here is pretty interesting, with the GWTP and MVP4G
> authors defending their design choices.http://code.google.com/p/mvp4g/wiki/Mvp4g_vs_GWTP
>
> One day, I'd like to propose a competition with real cash prizes for "most
>  elegant MVP framework in GWT".    For example, in the comment thread above,
> it would be interesting to see experts in each framework develop a full
> (albeit simple) application in each framework.  (Oh, if you have some cash
> money now, I'd be pleased if you steal the idea and start this competition
> today!)
>
> I keep wondering, why can't GWT have an MVC model that is as simple as Rails
> or PlayFramework?
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Felipe Martim Vieira <
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> felipemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe you should have a look at this:
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> >http://code.google.com/p/mvp4g/
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> > I have never used it, but it looks like a great alternative to reduce
> > the amount of work.
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> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Aidan O'Kelly <aida...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Thomas Broyer <t.bro...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > >> And BTW, MVP is a design pattern, and there's no one single way of
> > >> implementing it (the MVP articles in the GWT doc makes it kind of
> > clear).
> > >> And the fact that Activities and Places (which people sometimes
> > erroneously
> > >> call "MVP framework") are quite new makes it clear that it's not "the"
> > way
> > >> to build GWT apps: there must have been ways to do it before they're
> > >> introduced!
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> > > Point taken, the docs do make it very clear its a pattern and one way
> > > of implementing it, and that its best suited for large scale projects
> > > and why. Though reading through the User Guide, you could be forgiven
> > > for thinking 'This is the way I should go with my app!', especially if
> > > you decide to use UiBinder, as the Activity/Places MVP article uses it
> > > and is almost like a tutorial on building an app.
>
> > > I guess its just because the other tutorial in the User Guide, the
> > > Stock Watcher, doesn't use UiBinder, which is a very attractive
> > > feature to anyone new to GWT. Would be nice to have a chapter/tutorial
> > > on building a small/medium sized UiBinder based app that doesn't use
> > > MVP.
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