Friday, July 30, 2010

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

Since you have multimillion users, you would help getting rid of those IE6 by letting them know to consider upgrading and telling them how to do that. There's a proportion of them that only don't know that there's something else out there and I think we could increase the changing rate by a little bit of education. Something that we just never do.

Cheers,

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Michael W <mwang_2008@yahoo.com> wrote:
I suggest you to add Google analytics to your website.

It will give your some data of how many users come to your site with
IE6 as well as other browsers.
It is free and easy to use.
https://www.google.com/analytics/settings/home

Give you some idea: for our site, I see 8% of users use IE6. As we
have multi-millions users, we have to take care of IE6.
You may decide base on statistic data.


On Jul 23, 10:28 am, nacho <vela.igna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is so easy and free to install FF in any computer, that i don't know
> why developers must keep loosing time with IE6.
>
> When someone's want's a web development we must say "Ok, but i will
> not do it IE6 compliant", Google doesn't losses any more time in that,
> why should we?
>
> I don't loose time in that. I have no more hair to pull of my head :D
>
> On 23 jul, 10:28, Stefan Bachert <stefanbach...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi to all,
>
> > There is no need for jsni.
>
> >http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/2.0/com/google/g...
>
> > Window.Navigator.getNavigator()
>
> > should do the job.
>
> > a link to the download page(s) of modern browser may be useful, too.
>
> > Stefan Bachert
> > http::/gwtworld.de
>
> > Inquiries for professional GWT support are welcome.
> > I am sorry, I won't do free personal support.
>
> > On 23 Jul., 10:07, Sven <sven.ti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Magnus,
>
> > > I do it like this:
>
> > >         public static native String getUserAgent() /*-{
> > >                 return navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
> > >         }-*/;
>
> > >         public void onModuleLoad() {
> > >                 ....
> > >                 if (MyMainClass.getUserAgent().contains("msie 6.0")) {
> > >                         HTML message = new HTML("Please notice: as you are using an old
> > > version of your browser, some functionalities of this site may be
> > > limited.");
> > >                         message.setStylePrimaryName("info");
> > >                         RootPanel.get("info").add( message );
> > >                 }
> > >                 ....
> > >         }
>
> > > The warning is displayed on top of the page. You may want to have a
> > > look atwww.dotvoting.orgwhereI'veimplemented it. I noticed that
> > > not only many transparencies of my icons are currently not rendered
> > > well, but also some layouting is wrong. However, as the main functions
> > > should work, I thought adding a message forIE6and focusing onIE7,
> > > 8, FF, Chrome, Safari, ... is more appropriate than making it perfect
> > > forIE6.
>
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Sven
>
> > > On 23 Jul., 04:21, Magnus <alpineblas...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Brett,
>
> > > > ok, but BTW: How can one do this,i. e.determine the browser version
> > > > with GWT?
>
> > > > Magnus
>
> > > > On Jul 22, 8:03 pm, Brett Thomas <brettptho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think it looks classy to display a note for IE6 users that says something
> > > > > along the lines of "unfortunately our website no longer supports IE6, click
> > > > > here to learn how to upgrade"
>
> > > > > I think plenty of people have no idea what browser version they are using.
> > > > > They may know the difference betweenIEand Firefox, but not what version
> > > > > number it is. If a site doesn't work, they'll just say "must be because my
> > > > > computer is old" and forget about it. So, tell them what they can do to fix
> > > > > it...
>
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:00 PM, charlie <charlie.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Agreed.  It's been the bane of web developers existence for far too long.
>
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Christian Goudreau <
> > > > > > goudreau.christ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> Let's drop IE6 and IE7 support, I think it's time anyway for that.
>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Isaac Truett <itru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> GWT doesn't promise to make your application look the same on all
> > > > > >>> browsers. It does try its very best to make sure that the JS it produces
> > > > > >>> functions the same across browsers, and doesn't leave any nasty side
> > > > > >>> effects, leak memory, or anything like that.
>
> > > > > >>> There may be some cases where GWT will leverage CSS "tricks" on each
> > > > > >>> browser to achieve a result (although I can't think of any such cases off
> > > > > >>> the top of my head), but that doesn't mean that GWT will take steps to
> > > > > >>> ensure that all of your CSS is magically transformed into something that
> > > > > >>> works on any browser. For one thing, that's out of scope, and for another it
> > > > > >>> isn't possible. Some things in CSS just aren't supported, especially in
> > > > > >>> older browsers.
>
> > > > > >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Magnus <alpineblas...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>> Hi,
>
> > > > > >>>> sorry for repeating:
>
> > > > > >>>> I thought that the promise of GWT was that one never ever has to deal
> > > > > >>>> with such problems anymore?
>
> > > > > >>>> Why are we discussing about wether to spent time in supporting IE6
> > > > > >>>> while the GWT compiler should do this?
>
> > > > > >>>> Magnus
>
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