Sunday, November 23, 2014

Re: DART vs. GWT

As usual, history repeats itself. Microsoft sued Sun over Java, the applet died. Oracle sued Google over Java... there goes GWT.

But in reality, all Google did was separate GWT from the company too guard itself against expensive litigation. I think the GWT project is doing quite well in OpenSource. Java 8 fixes quite a lot of the verbosity of Java. Many cool languages are nothing else but cool, nice for small projects, but often they need a rewrite to get it to scale.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Blake McBride <blake1024@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Blake McBride <blake1024@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC+2, deepak chauhan wrote:
One question is disturbing me from a long time. Why Google invented DART, when GWT is already there?



Experience has taught me that, although the quality of technology plays a role in technological choices, politics and marketing always trumps it.  (I.e. original Intel processors over Motorola, Windows vs. Mac, Unix, or Linux, Flash vs. HTML, etc.)

GWT is a really, really good tool.  Google was devoting a lot of effort into it _until_ Oracle sued Google over Java (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_v._Google).  Now Google just wants to get away from Oracle's purview.  Switching from Java to Dart does that.  Of course, while you are at it, you can throw in some other things from lessons you've learned _and_ to make the case not look like politics.  You can rationalize all day about it, but that is the reason.

With all the competition and various technological trade-offs, it is anyone's guess whether Dart will make it or not.  GWT works real well.  It is up to the community to keep it alive.

Blake



I have to add that Oracle suing Google over Java when Google was such a huge proponent of Java has got to be one of the industry's stupidest moves.  As Oracle makes one stupid move after another concerning Java, and couple that with Microsoft open sourcing C# and .NET, things will surely get interesting over the next few years.

Blake

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