Wednesday, January 20, 2016

Re: Is GWT not being massively adopted because the crawler problem?

The problem with GWT has always been misconceptions and lack of informations.
While the GWT project homepage has improved a lot. it still super difficult to  find the right informations.

I remember my first meeting with customers when I said "what about writing this entire thing in Java with GWT ?  "
The answer was "No way we will use applets here. Are you mad ? "
 Then I always have to answer Question like "what if there is a problem with the generated JavaScript code ? Can I have a look ? Do we even need to have a look ? "

When I said "You want to target web, mobile web, native mobile and desktop from one code base ? GWT is the way to go"  They look at me like I m crazy.

Other problem is showcases.
People are building great products, libraries but it s hard to find it.
I mean products like animatron.com should be right at the first page of the GWT project home page.
 
I mean look at the JS community. For every single little thing they do their advertise it like crazy.
You almost think Angular JS invented two way databindig :).

Off course the argument is always "It s opensouce. Just contribuate it".

Miss the days where there was a real developer advocate for GWT at Google (David :) ).

On 20 January 2016 at 10:09, Stefan Bylund <stefan.bylund99@gmail.com> wrote:
Google's web crawler (Googlebot) has improved substantially lately when it comes to crawling dynamic HTML pages generated with JavaScript. It does not simply crawl the initial HTML page but executes any JavaScript and then crawls the resulting HTML page. You don't have to do the cumbersome hashbang (escaped fragments) workaround any more. I have not had any problems with indexing GWT web apps with Google's web crawler. See this article for more info:


However, I think that Bing's web crawler still have problems with indexing dynamic HTML pages generated with JavaScript. But with Google's market share I don't see that as a problem.

/Stefan


Den onsdag 20 januari 2016 kl. 06:35:30 UTC+1 skrev Adolfo Rodriguez:
Hi, the title is provocative. I wanted to ask 2 questions in the same thread. I love GWT, no doubt is the framework that delivers higher productivity. But I quit using it 2 years ago because google robots where not able to properly index my pages despite I implemented the escaped fragment specs. Disappointing.

On the other hand, I would expect much more traction in a Java framework than can combine presentation (Bootstrap) with presentation login (any JS libraries) and server side. But barely you can see job openings in the market demanding GWT. Even, the last message in this list is 40 days old.

So, I want to raise the question:

* what is stopping GWT against other frameworks? Is the problem with crawlers?

* what i the current status of crawler, HTML generation and search engine robots?

I have a mixed feeling with GWT, I love it... but my experience says that I should not use it.

Thanks



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