Thursday, September 16, 2010

Re: GWT designer & mVp

I'd like to add one more note to the comment below.
GWT Designer seems now a tool for engineers, which don't want to learn
all UiBinder tags or simply want to write code faster. IMHO, I see two
possible paths for GWT Designer future:

1. Continue to improve it and address usability issues such as ones
below, making it easier/better for engineers use. Nice addition to GWT
toolkit in this case.

2. Work with UX & UI designers folks to understand how do they build
now mocks & wireframes for their companies apps. How do they use
Photoshop, Fireworks, Dreamweaver? What tools to they use for
wireframes and mocks and how? How do engineers use materials provided
by UX? (we are slicing Photoshop comps, we are rebuilding manually
some mocks or wireframes from scratch as if they were printed) To find
these guys, try going to web design shops or larger enterprise
companies and understand how are they working now, and not only to GWT
users.
Set a goal so that UX & UI designers can completely produce Views in
GWT using GWT Designer. Change GWT Designer so it fits their needs,
not engineers'. When receiving .ui.xml files from designer, an
engineer will just have to add ui:field attribute to some elements.
THAT'S IT. Try to consider any other change than this as a failure.
Now this would be awesome.


On Sep 16, 10:23 pm, "marius.andreiana" <marius.andrei...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It's really not that usable now, or at least I don't know how to use
> it. Would be great to have some video tutorials building real life
> Views with it.
>
> Some quick issues I encountered:
> * cannot add widgets to HTMLPanel
> * cannot add new CSS classes, as the dialog says
> * CSS class editor has poor usability (I've got to a 3rd level of
> popup window on Edit font list), misses auto-completion, color picker
> isn't the standard one and not allowing to manually enter color hex
> triplet if desired
> * choosing styles in Properties for label/radio button doesn't have
> any effect in preview
>
> On Sep 16, 9:41 pm, Christian Goudreau <goudreau.christ...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You see Marius, now your business must take the train ! Don't miss it,
> > what's ahead is bright and shiny !
>
> > Cheers :D
>
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:29 PM, marius.andreiana <
>
> > marius.andrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Do you see GWT designer working together with GWT 2.1 MVP model, and
> > > have it seamlessly generate UiBinder View files?
>
> > > Could it be a tool used by designers to do UiBinder mockups (instead
> > > of classic wireframes/mocks), ready to be used by developers? (a dream
> > > came true :)
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